Sure this is way late with the first week of the regular season nearly in the books. But that doesn't mean it isn't worth your time. It is, it is!
After the modest success of last season’s post-draft
Q&A, I decided to conduct a similarly styled piece following the CKL’s 2013
draft. Taking place in National Harbor
near Washington, D.C. on August 10th, the 12th
season of the Cavalier Keeper League kicked off with our much-anticipated live
draft. Nine of the fourteen coaches
drafted in-person, and I never ceased to be amazed at how many of these guys
make a point of attending considering how far apart most of us live. And I know more would have come under
different circumstances. In the words of
our fearless commissioner, it was a “wildly successful and fun draft
weekend.” I couldn’t agree more even
with my very first pick already injured (more on that later).
This season, instead of doing a set of interview-style
questions, I’ve taken the approach of posting the draft results and using the
responses to my various questions to provide some color to each round. I sent each coach a list of individualized
questions plus two additional questions that were the same for everyone. I want to personally thank each and every
coach in the CKL, as I received feedback from every single one of you, which
still blows me away. Thanks also to Kendall for sending me questions to answer about my
team. I also choose to provide an answer
to the last question I sent to everyone, and you’ll see that here.
Aside from some minor editing for grammar (not exhaustive),
formatting, spelling, and corrections for when draft picks were made, these are
the words straight from each coach. No
pictures in this one, but I trust the content will be sufficiently
entertaining. I hope you all enjoy reading this as much as I enjoyed
piecing it together.
Let’s get to it.
Editor’s note:
Aside from some last minute additions and editing, the majority of this piece
was written prior to the first game of the season on Thursday, September 4th. Some of the comments you read may appear
outdated and this is the reason.
Round 1
Pick
|
Overall
|
By
|
Player
|
1
|
1
|
Rookie
|
Le’Veon Bell
|
2
|
2
|
Derrick
|
Stevan Ridley
|
3
|
3
|
Joe
|
Andrew Luck
|
4
|
4
|
Patrick
|
Dez Bryant
|
5
|
5
|
Alan
|
Steven Jackson
|
6
|
6
|
Kirk
|
Chris Johnson
|
7
|
7
|
Russ
|
Montee Ball
|
8
|
8
|
Mark
|
Eddie Lacy
|
9
|
9
|
Paul
|
Giovani Bernard
|
10
|
10
|
Chad
|
Andre Johnson
|
11
|
11
|
Kendall
|
Victor Cruz
|
12
|
12
|
Nathan
|
Reggie Bush
|
13
|
13
|
Ben
|
Frank Gore
|
14
|
14
|
Norris
|
DeMarco Murray
|
I said this on draft day and I’ll say it again here – the
way this first round went down is a game-changer for future seasons. There was plenty of surprise when I nabbed Bell first overall (as I
already kept two RBs), but nothing was more unexpected than when Joe selected
Andrew Luck with the third pick, pairing him with Cam Newton. Joe was clearly drafting with the intent to
make a post-draft trade and for his sake I hope it works. But this had never been done before in the
CKL, so I’m sure we’ll all be watching to see how this plays out. Joe had this to say about his unorthodox
approach: “At pick #3 and going in with
the knowledge that I was behind the 8-ball with Percival's injury, I felt I
needed to do something very unconventional to improve my team. The thought
process can be best viewed in the rear view mirror now that I was able to make
the trade for TRich. I love that I made such a move in the draft, but as
always, I second guessed it as well as every other pick I made, post-draft.
These last few weeks have been agonizing.”
One of the best picks of the first round, in my opinion, went to Kendall at #11. In mock drafts we conducted in the weeks (and hours) leading up to the draft, Cruz never fell that far, so I know Kendall was excited to see him there and had this to say: “I was pretty ecstatic to land Cruz at #11. I had him at #4 on my personal board, behind Andrew Luck, Le'Veon Bell, and Dez Bryant. (But honestly, I'd rather have Cruz than Bryant -- remember, Dez is still a colossal shithead.) Concerned about the bruised heel? Not really. It's a fucking bruised heel. He's already back at practice, ready to suit up against Dallas on opening day, and conveniently missed the danger of a worse injury during the second half of training camp and the preseason. All of that being said, Cruz has already been involved in some early trade discussion, so I guess we'll see what happens! I do love the guy, though. For all of the Wes Welker hype, Cruz is the guy who really made slot receivers (and some resurrected Run & Shoot principles) cool.”
Derrick’s thoughts on
why Ridley was the obvious choice: I hadn't decided on Ridley coming into the draft, but I had decided I
needed an RB. I felt like I couldn't wait until my second pick and plenty
of WRs would be available then.
Paul’s thoughts on
selecting Giovani Bernard at #9: I
had no idea who would be available at the 9-spot, and I had no specific targets
as the draft began. I was just hoping to land a "sexy-badass" (Thanks
for that terminology, Kirk). In retrospect, I wish I'd taken Victor Cruz, but
I'm happy enough with Gio. I'm not worried about the Law Firm situation. It'd
be nice if he had a big season, but as long as he's keeper worthy at the end of
the season, I'll be happy.
My thoughts on taking
Le’Veon Bell #1 overall: I agonized
for so long over this pick, going back and forth between Andrew Luck and Dez
Bryant. It really wasn’t until the night
before the draft that Bell
entered the picture. I didn’t like what
I expected to be there at the end of round two in terms of RBs, so I figured
this was my best shot to grab a start-worthy RB to pair with the high risk-medium
reward duo of McFadden and Miller. Now
that Bell’s
injured, there’s some regret and if we drafted today I’d probably take Dez. But, I still think he comes back in week 4 or
5 and takes over the starting gig in Pittsburgh
no later than midseason, thus making him a legitimate keeper. More than anything, that was my primary goal
with the first pick.
Russ’s thoughts on
taking Montee Ball despite already having two stud RBs: Three playable RBs in the CKL is always a
great idea. I assumed I'd play 'em, and if not, I'd deal 'em. Ball
is skilled and with PMann. That means production (if he can block).
Mark’s take on the
drama of the first round and why Eddie Lacy was the right pick: I didn't see the rush on rookie RBs
happening like it did. I was targeting Le'Veon Bell as a Steelers fan. Lacy was a
player I was interested in, perhaps not in the first round. With the Bell injury lingering and
the general ineptitude of the Steelers o-line, the Lacy pick may pay off.
Kirk's thoughts on how well Kendall handled business as his proxy: Kendall did a get job for me as I expected. He took players I would not have taken myself and I love that actually. My team suffers because of me. I have Aaron Rodgers and Adrian Peterson and have for years. I should have 2 to 3 cups by now and yet through a combination of stupidity and dogged determination I have avoided them. I'm being stretched a little and I like it.
Round 2
Pick
|
Overall
|
By
|
Player
|
1
|
15
|
Norris
|
Torrey Smith
|
2
|
16
|
Ben
|
Pierre Garçon
|
3
|
17
|
Nathan
|
Vincent Jackson
|
4
|
18
|
Kendall
|
Tony Romo
|
5
|
19
|
Chad
|
Danny Amendola
|
6
|
20
|
Paul
|
Shane Vareen
|
7
|
21
|
Mark
|
Wes Welker
|
8
|
22
|
Russ
|
Jordy Nelson
|
9
|
23
|
Kirk
|
Hakeem Nicks
|
10
|
24
|
Alan
|
Eli Manning
|
11
|
25
|
Patrick
|
T.Y. Hilton
|
12
|
26
|
Joe
|
Chris Ivory
|
13
|
27
|
Derrick
|
Reggie Wayne
|
14
|
28
|
Rookie
|
Tavon Austin
|
No real surprises in round two, as we saw a nice mix of RBs and WRs with a couple of QBs still to go. I hated to see Tony Romo go to Kendall here, as I think he’ll be a top 10 QB in 2013. Joe takes his first RB in Chris Ivory which had to make him more than a little uneasy. Chad appears to have bought into the thinking that Amendola will replace Wes Welker sufficiently well in New England to justify an early selection. I tend to agree with him, but I also expect Amendola to miss at least three games due to injury. What does Chad think? "I wouldn't say I'm completely sold on him, but as I looked around for a reliable passing attache and seemingly a #1 WR I felt like he was the obvious selection at that point. Leading up to the draft I was targeting Jordy Nelson in the first round, but his injury scared me. Then that crazy first round happened and Andre Johnson fell so far I couldn't believe it. I was very happy with those first two picks."
Norris’s thoughts on
taking Torrey Smith ahead of several other WRs like Garçon, VJax, and Welker: I though about those guys but Smith is younger and I believe is poised for a huge season.
Patrick’s thoughts on
taking T.Y. Hilton ahead of Reggie Wayne:
God, did I? Shit. I dunno. I just
made some projections and took a shot. I had Hiltons at 147 and Wayne at 157. I figured
the ten point difference lost out to his youth.
Round 3
Pick
|
Overall
|
By
|
Player
|
1
|
29
|
Rookie
|
Marques Colston
|
2
|
30
|
Derrick
|
DeSean Jackson
|
3
|
31
|
Joe
|
Tony Gonzalez
|
4
|
32
|
Patrick
|
Ahmad Bradshaw
|
5
|
33
|
Alan
|
Ryan Mathews
|
6
|
34
|
Kirk
|
Vernon Davis
|
7
|
35
|
Russ
|
Steve Smith
|
8
|
36
|
Mark
|
James Jones
|
9
|
37
|
Paul
|
Eric Decker
|
10
|
38
|
Chad
|
Daryl Richardson
|
11
|
39
|
Kendall
|
BenJarvus Green-Ellis
|
12
|
40
|
Nathan
|
Rashard Mendenhall
|
13
|
41
|
Ben
|
Steve Johnson
|
14
|
42
|
Norris
|
Greg Jennings
|
Joe’s back to making history by taking his second TE before
most teams even have one. The post-draft
trade-a-thon is in full force now. When
asked about his strategy with Gonzalez, Joe had this to say. “Yes. At that point it was about value,
and according to my notes - Tony held the most value at that point and I
figured I could turn either him or Jimmy G. into a much better receiver than
what was left at that point in the draft. It was all about ‘the trade’.”
Nathan’s thoughts on
what he expects from Mendenhall: Mendenhall
was just the best RB on my board. I figured the guys drafting behind me wanted
a RB more than a WR at that point, so I took Mendy. I don't have very high
expectations, just the possibility of a bye week fill-in.
Alan’s thoughts on
Ryan Mathews reuniting with the Juris United: I think I'm the only one in the league that's had to put up with his
fragile nonsense since he came out of college, but even through all of it, I
think he's the best bet in SD and has potential. Sometimes you believe in a guy
despite yourself - that "gut feeling" Kendall
talks about. I think he could do something this year if he doesn't break a
collarbone. I drafted him because there was too much value at that point, but
the truth is, I think he's a good RB waiting to happen.
Chad’s
thoughts on Daryl Richardson coupled with Isaiah Pead later in the draft: I needed an RB and Richardson was all that was sitting there that I would consider. I did zero research on him until a few minutes before I picked him so I certainly wasn't targeting him. Then I felt like I pulled the trigger on Pead too early. Not happy with either of them really. Ideally, the Rams become the Greatest Show on Turf again and I look wise for having three of them on my team; however I think that to be an unlikely scenario.
Round 4
Pick
|
Overall
|
By
|
Player
|
1
|
43
|
Norris
|
J.J. Watt
|
2
|
44
|
Ben
|
Jermichael Finley
|
3
|
45
|
Nathan
|
Miles Austin
|
4
|
46
|
Kendall
|
Andre Brown
|
5
|
47
|
Chad
|
Josh Gordon
|
6
|
48
|
Paul
|
Anquan Boldin
|
7
|
49
|
Mark
|
Ronnie Hillman
|
8
|
50
|
Russ
|
Emmanuel Sanders
|
9
|
51
|
Kirk
|
Vick Ballard
|
10
|
52
|
Alan
|
Kyle Rudolph
|
11
|
53
|
Patrick
|
Luke Kuechly
|
12
|
54
|
Joe
|
Mike Williams
|
13
|
55
|
Derrick
|
Lance Moore
|
14
|
56
|
Rookie
|
Golden Tate
|
The IDP seal was broken in round 4, with the consensus top
DL and LB coming off the board. Norris
had this to say about making J.J. Watt the first defensive player selected: "It wasn't my plan going in but I wanted to get starters before loading my bench. Even if Watt's production falls off 20% from last year he will still be the number one defensive player and score more than most WRs and RB."
Mark’s thoughts on
taking Ronnie Hillman and whether or not he’ll start for the Broncos: At the time I felt like Hillman was set to
be the good side of the RBBC in Denver.
not so sure about that now. If the draft was more recently done I
wouldn't have taken him at all.
Kirk’s thoughts on
whether Vick Ballard or Ahmad Bradshaw will be the better Colt RB to own this
season: I'm not strong on Bradshaw.
He was on my team before and never impressed me. I feel like he'll
do the same for the Colts. Ballard will get his carries in the time share
and more so later when I need him.
Round 5
Pick
|
Overall
|
By
|
Player
|
1
|
57
|
Rookie
|
James Laurinaitis
|
2
|
58
|
Derrick
|
Fred Jackson
|
3
|
59
|
Joe
|
Kenny Britt
|
4
|
60
|
Patrick
|
Bobby Wagner
|
5
|
61
|
Alan
|
NaVorro Bowman
|
6
|
62
|
Kirk
|
Sidney Rice
|
7
|
63
|
Russ
|
Greg Olsen
|
8
|
64
|
Mark
|
DeAndre Hopkins
|
9
|
65
|
Paul
|
Vincent Brown
|
10
|
66
|
Chad
|
Owen Daniels
|
11
|
67
|
Kendall
|
Aaron Dobson
|
12
|
68
|
Nathan
|
Mark Ingram
|
13
|
69
|
Ben
|
Michael Floyd
|
14
|
70
|
Norris
|
Denarius Moore
|
Three more defensive players go off the board in the first
five picks in what looked like the start of a run, but the next IDP selected
didn’t occur until the end of round 7.
Regrets anyone?
-Me: Yeah,
I’d take a mulligan if I could. I do
think Laurinaitis will be a top 3-5 LB at season’s end, but for there to be
such a wait, I wish I could do it over.
-Patrick: I figure IDP is gonna make a bigger impact
this season. I saw a pretty big fall off after the top 8 IDP or so. Any way,
but round 5, it's pretty much garbage out there anyway.
-Alan: No. There were several LBs that went within
a round before that pick of mine, and I think top IDPs can be potentially as
good as WR2s. Watch - someone will trade for an IDP this year. I dispute that
those picks were jumping the gun.
Ben’s thoughts on
what he expects from Michael Floyd in his second season: I am bullish on
Michael Floyd, but that has happened for me a lot with AZ players since I
adopted them as my team. Usually that grenade blows up in my face around
kickoff of game one. As long as we don't zoom in too far, I am hopeful
that Palmer still looks like he has a pair and uses his talented
receivers as they should be.
Round 6
Pick
|
Overall
|
By
|
Player
|
1
|
71
|
Norris
|
Jared Cook
|
2
|
72
|
Ben
|
Christine Michael
|
3
|
73
|
Nathan
|
Antonio Gates
|
4
|
74
|
Kendall
|
Ben Tate
|
5
|
75
|
Chad
|
Isaiah Pead
|
6
|
76
|
Paul
|
Bernard Pierce
|
7
|
77
|
Mark
|
Bryce Brown
|
8
|
78
|
Russ
|
DeAngelo Williams
|
9
|
79
|
Kirk
|
Toby Gerhart
|
10
|
80
|
Alan
|
Mikel Leshoure
|
11
|
81
|
Patrick
|
Zac Stacy
|
12
|
82
|
Joe
|
Johnathan Franklin
|
13
|
83
|
Derrick
|
Rueben Randle
|
14
|
84
|
Rookie
|
Sam Bradford
|
Norris schooled us all when he took Jared Cook with the
first pick of round 6. He’s going to be
really good with the Rams this season, you can book it. Mastermind Kendall
encouraged a run on backup RBs, but were any of these too early? Ben had this to say when asked if he should
have waited to take Christine Michael: “Yeah, this is admitted a directly influenced pick by the
master manipulator that sat to my right during the draft. I am happy with
his preseason, but I could have gotten him a round or two later. I felt
that pain and pushed back on later attempts to start an early IDP and kicker
round. In the end, Michael is good to have, as Lynch runs hard (read: gets
beat up). Glad to have this insurance.” Kendall had
this to say about the backup RB round: “Ha
ha ha. It was just the right time for Ben Tate to come off the board.
It was also the right time for Ben to take Christine Michael (especially
in light of the recent sleeper hype that guy has generated), for Paul to take
Bernard Pierce, and for Kirk to take Toby Gerhart. Isaiah Pead in the 6th
was a bit early for Chad to bite, but it made sense. I have no clue what
Patrick was thinking with Zac Stacy that early. And Mark sniping Bryce
Brown from Russ was great. I guess I sparked off that run on handcuffs
with some good ol' fashioned table talk. Another of the many benefits of
attending the live draft.”
My thoughts on making Sam Bradford my starting QB: It’s not what you want to have happen on draft day, but I’m beginning to really like the idea. Along with Dalton (selected with the next pick), I believe I have two capable QBs with tons of upside. Both the Rams and Bengals made significant improvements to their offenses during the offseason and I think it pays dividends starting in 2013. There’s a chance that one or both have a top 10 season, and to be the 14th and 15th QBs off the board, I’m excited. I’ll play matchups each week and be competitive. Other QBs I would have considered in these middle rounds after waiting would have included Michael Vick and Jay Cutler. I think both have good upside this season.
Kirk’s thoughts on his relentless desire
to own Toby Gerhart: I'm not going to
second guess a 4 time cups winner’s decisions in picking my team.
Russ’s thoughts on
DeAngelo Williams: Well, I need
him now what with TRich gone. I'm hoping Cam
doesn't snake too many TDs.
Round 7
Pick
|
Overall
|
By
|
Player
|
1
|
85
|
Rookie
|
Andy Dalton
|
2
|
86
|
Derrick
|
Pierre Thomas
|
3
|
87
|
Joe
|
Ryan Broyles
|
4
|
88
|
Patrick
|
Justin Blackmon
|
5
|
89
|
Alan
|
Ben Roethlisberger
|
6
|
90
|
Kirk
|
Darius Heyward-Bey
|
7
|
91
|
Russ
|
Joe Flacco
|
8
|
92
|
Mark
|
Malcolm Floyd
|
9
|
93
|
Paul
|
Jay Cutler
|
10
|
94
|
Chad
|
Cordarrelle Patterson
|
11
|
95
|
Kendall
|
Philip Rivers
|
12
|
96
|
Nathan
|
Michael Vick
|
13
|
97
|
Ben
|
D’Qwell Jackson
|
14
|
98
|
Norris
|
Sean Lee
|
Russ is the last to fill his starting QB slot, taking Joe
Flacco with the 91st overall pick.
Here’s what Russ had to say about waiting to select a QB: “I didn't want to have a rehash of 2012, with
two middling cubes to juggle week to week, but Joseph fucked that up. I
knew he'd deal though, and obviously that was a good bet, knowing Joe.”
Derrick’s thoughts on
whether or not Pierre Thomas’ role with the Saints will increase this season:
I think he was one of the better RBs on
the board. I think Mark Ingram is horrible, so as long as he stays
healthy I think he'll be the guy along with Sproles.
Nathan’s expectations
for Michael Vick, who was named the starter for the Eagles after our draft:
As sick as this sounds, I'm pretty excited about Vick. He might even earn a
start or two over RG3. If he works out I'll definitely be floating him to
QB-needy teams. I have my own needs too.
Chad’s thoughts on taking Patterson and the
over/under on 800 yards & 6 TDs in 2013: I think he will be less than 700 yards and 5 TDs. He was another one where draft day was the first day he was on my radar. Not real happy with that pick.
Round 8
Pick
|
Overall
|
By
|
Player
|
1
|
99
|
Norris
|
Shonn Greene
|
2
|
100
|
Ben
|
Josh Freeman
|
3
|
101
|
Nathan
|
Brandon Lafell
|
4
|
102
|
Kendall
|
Jordan Cameron
|
5
|
103
|
Chad
|
LaMichael James
|
6
|
104
|
Paul
|
Brandon Myers
|
7
|
105
|
Mark
|
Jacquizz Rodgers
|
8
|
106
|
Russ
|
Derrick Johnson
|
9
|
107
|
Kirk
|
Matt Schaub
|
10
|
108
|
Alan
|
DeMarcus Ware
|
11
|
109
|
Patrick
|
Jonathan Stewart
|
12
|
110
|
Joe
|
Danny Woodhead
|
13
|
111
|
Derrick
|
Alex Smith
|
14
|
112
|
Rookie
|
Alshon Jeffery
|
At this point in the draft, things bog down. Few option look particularly exciting, and
the picks seem to take longer. But these
are the rounds that have seen the likes of Rob Gronkowski (7th round
in 2011), Cam Newton (9th round in 2011), and Demarco Murray (10th
round in 2011) rise to stardom. Will one
of the guys from round 8 be among them?
I think a couple of these players have a shot, particularly Jordan
Cameron (Kendall, pick 102) and Alshon Jeffery
(pick 112). These two ooze with upside,
and I couldn’t be happier to have Jeffery on my squad. Here’s what Kendall
had to say about his expectations for Cameron: “I love Jordan Cameron. I think he has top-3 upside at the
position. In fact... 2013 Jordan Cameron = 2011 Jimmy Graham, you heard
it here first.”
Patrick’s thoughts on
taking Jonathan Stewart considering the current news that he will likely start
the season on the PUP list: Yeah.
Fuck that guy. I figured he'd nab me 120 pts this season. Oh well.
Derrick’s take on why
Alex Smith earned the backup QB nod for the KAG: Wasn't targeting him. I typically draft a second QB. I
waited longer than usual and Smith was the best remaining.
Round 9
Pick
|
Overall
|
By
|
Player
|
1
|
113
|
Rookie
|
Paul Posluszny
|
2
|
114
|
Derrick
|
Brian Cushing
|
3
|
115
|
Joe
|
Patrick Willis
|
4
|
116
|
Patrick
|
Charles Tillman
|
5
|
117
|
Alan
|
Fred Davis
|
6
|
118
|
Kirk
|
Brian Hartline
|
7
|
119
|
Russ
|
Chad
Greenway
|
8
|
120
|
Mark
|
Martellus Bennett
|
9
|
121
|
Paul
|
Coby Fleener
|
10
|
122
|
Chad
|
Lavonte David
|
11
|
123
|
Kendall
|
Kendall Wright
|
12
|
124
|
Nathan
|
Jerod Mayo
|
13
|
125
|
Ben
|
Jared Allen
|
14
|
126
|
Norris
|
Wesley Woodyard
|
Lots of defensive players went in this round which isn’t
surprising considering we need to start three each week. But it’s the TEs that really catch my eye, as
I think each has a chance to outperform their draft spot. Here’s what each coach had to say.
-Alan on taking Fred
Davis: Just dumb luck that he was
still available, but every once in a while I recognize an opportunity.
-Mark on taking
Martellus Bennett: To be perfectly
honest I like Bennett as one of the 15 TEs that will have 600 yds and 4 TDs.
Don’t really give a shit. He will have 2-3 good games, 7-10 ok games,
and 3-4 stinkers. Just like every other TE that isn't named Graham or
(eventually) Gronkowski.
-Paul on taking Coby
Fleener: I planned on waiting on TE
and trying to grab two guys that I could play matchups with. Fleener's
preseason has been less than stellar, but maybe he'll get healthy and not suck.
Kinda concerned about my TE situaish.
Best shot at being a
star in 2013: Fred Davis and Kendall Wright.
Round 10
Pick
|
Overall
|
By
|
Player
|
1
|
127
|
Norris
|
Jake Locker
|
2
|
128
|
Ben
|
Julian Edelman
|
3
|
129
|
Nathan
|
Lawrence
Timmons
|
4
|
130
|
Kendall
|
Sean Weatherspoon
|
5
|
131
|
Chad
|
London
Fletcher
|
6
|
132
|
Paul
|
E.J. Manuel
|
7
|
133
|
Mark
|
Michael Bush
|
8
|
134
|
Russ
|
Ryan Tannehill
|
9
|
135
|
Kirk
|
Ed Dickson
|
10
|
136
|
Alan
|
Andre Roberts
|
11
|
137
|
Patrick
|
Santonio Holmes
|
12
|
138
|
Joe
|
Stephen Hill
|
13
|
139
|
Derrick
|
Dwayne Allen
|
14
|
140
|
Rookie
|
Tyler Eifert
|
One of my favorite moments in any draft is when two players
from the same team playing the same position are selected back to back. It seems to happen every year. Or maybe it’s just that it happened twice
last season so it just feels like it happens all the time. Anyway, it’s a great opportunity to quietly
take a jab at the previous pick. Joe
seemed to do just that with his selection of Stephen Hill right after Patrick
took Santonio Holmes. Joe had this to
say on taking Stephen Hill right after Holmes went off the board: “It was a total jab at Patrick's selection,
but I do think he will be better than Holmes. Holmes sucks.
Sidenote: My stomach hurt once I realized I had 3 Jets on my team
after the draft ... during the draft my head was spinning so much from how
things played out at the beginning that I just lost track.”
Norris’s thoughts on
whether this is a make-or-break season for Jake Locker: Wasn't looking for Locker but needed a backup and he was at the top of my list at the time. He has shown flashes of greatness and seems to have the tools [to] be productive. This year is make-or-break and I'm obviously hoping he makes it in a big way.
Paul nabbed E.J.
Manuel this round in what could be great value, even though he’s questionable
for week 1. Paul had this to say about
Manuel: I expect lots of checkdowns
to CJ Spiller, plenty of interceptions, and I dunno maybe some rushing yards/TDs
sprinkled in. That pick was a flyer on a dude with potential who was pretty
clearly going to start in Buffalo.
My thoughts on
drafting so many young “sexy badasses”, including Tyler Eifert: It wasn’t necessarily my plan to go with a
lot of young players, but I’ve been burned by going too old in past drafts. Really, it just happened to be that the
players I liked were there for the taking.
I’m particularly excited about Austin and Eifert. Two unknowns going into the season that could
be the difference between another sub-.500 season and a playoff push.
Best shot at being a
star in 2013: E.J. Manuel and Tyler Eifert
Round 11
Pick
|
Overall
|
By
|
Player
|
1
|
141
|
Rookie
|
Dustin Keller
|
2
|
142
|
Derrick
|
Blair Walsh
|
3
|
143
|
Joe
|
Geno Smith
|
4
|
144
|
Patrick
|
Von Miller
|
5
|
145
|
Alan
|
Cameron Wake
|
6
|
146
|
Kirk
|
D.J. Williams
|
7
|
147
|
Russ
|
Eric Weddle
|
8
|
148
|
Mark
|
Morgan Burnett
|
9
|
149
|
Paul
|
Dannell Ellerbe
|
10
|
150
|
Chad
|
Eric Berry
|
11
|
151
|
Kendall
|
Jermaine Gresham
|
12
|
152
|
Nathan
|
Rod Streater
|
13
|
153
|
Ben
|
Daniel Thomas
|
14
|
154
|
Norris
|
Joseph Randle
|
Farewell Dustin Keller.
You tore just about everything you could in your right knee and are down
for the season, possibly more. Good
thing I dropped you for super-sexy rookie TE Zach Sudfeld. More IDPs in round 11, but there are a few
juicy nuggets to be found here. It looks
like Cincinnati will line up in a lot of 2-TE
formations this season, which makes Gresham
a sneaky late-round value. I also love
Rod Streater in Oakland,
as I think he ends the season as their #1 wideout. But I’m not sure what that will actually mean
in terms of overall production given the Flynn/Pryor QB combo we’re likely to
see. Here’s what Nathan had to say about
Streater: “I think Streater was a better fit with Flynn
at QB, but we'll have to see who Pryor likes. As my fifth wide receiver I like
his upside, but I won't hesitate to dump him if I don't get anything out of
him.”
Best shot at being a
star in 2013: Dannell Ellerbe and Rod Streater
Round 12
Pick
|
Overall
|
By
|
Player
|
1
|
155
|
Norris
|
Roy Helu
|
2
|
156
|
Ben
|
Curtis Lofton
|
3
|
157
|
Nathan
|
Daryl Washington
|
4
|
158
|
Kendall
|
Stephen Gostkowski
|
5
|
159
|
Chad
|
Matt Bryant
|
6
|
160
|
Paul
|
Vontaze Burfict
|
7
|
161
|
Mark
|
Desmond Bishop
|
8
|
162
|
Russ
|
Matt Prater
|
9
|
163
|
Kirk
|
Mason Foster
|
10
|
164
|
Alan
|
Nate Burleson
|
11
|
165
|
Patrick
|
Justin Tucker
|
12
|
166
|
Joe
|
Isaac Redman
|
13
|
167
|
Derrick
|
Jason Pierre-Paul
|
14
|
168
|
Rookie
|
Colin McCarthy
|
I don’t have much to say about this round, but Joe should be
happy to see Redman as the current starter in Pittsburgh.
He wasn’t great last season, but touches are touches. Kendall
throws us a small curveball in taking the second kicker off the board in round
12. He may hate kickers, but this was
smart.
Best shot at being a
star in 2013: Isaac Redman
Round 13
Pick
|
Overall
|
By
|
Player
|
1
|
169
|
Rookie
|
Justin Forsett
|
2
|
170
|
Derrick
|
Clay Matthews
|
3
|
171
|
Joe
|
Lance Briggs
|
4
|
172
|
Patrick
|
Brandon Pettigrew
|
5
|
173
|
Alan
|
Mario Williams
|
6
|
174
|
Kirk
|
Bruce Carter
|
7
|
175
|
Russ
|
Mercedes Lewis
|
8
|
176
|
Mark
|
Donald Butler
|
9
|
177
|
Paul
|
Dion Lewis
|
10
|
178
|
Chad
|
Knile Davis
|
11
|
179
|
Kendall
|
Perry Riley
|
12
|
180
|
Nathan
|
Rob Housler
|
13
|
181
|
Ben
|
Greg Zuerlein
|
14
|
182
|
Norris
|
Alex Henery
|
Chad
wisely snagged Jamaal Charles’ backup in Knile Davis, and he was able to wait
until round 13 – excellent work. Sadly,
Paul already lost Dion Lewis for the season to injury. I don’t see much upside in this group and
it’s hard to say there are potential stars here.
Round 14
Pick
|
Overall
|
By
|
Player
|
1
|
183
|
Norris
|
Greg Little
|
2
|
184
|
Ben
|
Jacoby Jones
|
3
|
185
|
Nathan
|
Phil Dawson
|
4
|
186
|
Kendall
|
Kiko Alonso
|
5
|
187
|
Chad
|
Chris Givens*
|
6
|
188
|
Paul
|
Sebastian Janikowski
|
7
|
189
|
Mark
|
Randy Bullock
|
8
|
190
|
Russ
|
Robert Woods
|
9
|
191
|
Kirk
|
Mason Crosby
|
10
|
192
|
Alan
|
David Akers
|
11
|
193
|
Patrick
|
Jonathan Dwyer
|
12
|
194
|
Joe
|
Aldon Smith
|
13
|
195
|
Derrick
|
Mohamed Sanu
|
14
|
196
|
Rookie
|
Keenan Allen
|
*kept as redshirt from previous season
Kudos to Chad
for consistently playing the redshirt system to his advantage. Chris Givens is a steal in round 14. There are some other WRs here that I think
could see comparable production though, which is nice after the dregs in round
13. Greg Little, Jacoby Jones, Robert
Woods, Mohamed Sanu, and Keenan Allen all look like they will be #2 or #3 WRs
on their teams which is good value this late.
I didn’t like the pick on draft day, and now that the Steelers have cut
Jonathan Dwyer, it doesn’t look any better.
Best shot at being a
star in 2013: Chris Givens
Round 15 (REDSHIRT
ROUND)
Pick
|
Overall
|
By
|
Player
|
1
|
197
|
Rookie
|
Marcus Lattimore
|
2
|
198
|
Derrick
|
Denard Robinson
|
3
|
199
|
Joe
|
Dennis Pitta
|
4
|
200
|
Patrick
|
Markus Wheaton
|
5
|
201
|
Alan
|
A.J. Jenkins
|
6
|
202
|
Kirk
|
Ryan Williams
|
7
|
203
|
Russ
|
Michael Crabtree
|
8
|
204
|
Mark
|
Justin Hunter
|
9
|
205
|
Paul
|
Kenbrell Thompkins
|
10
|
206
|
Chad
|
Kendall Hunter
|
11
|
207
|
Kendall
|
Jeremy Maclin
|
12
|
208
|
Nathan
|
Tavarres King
|
13
|
209
|
Ben
|
Kenjon Barner
|
14
|
210
|
Norris
|
LaGarrette Blount
|
The redshirt round is one of my favorite wrinkles in the CKL
draft. Anyone drafted in this round can
be kept next season (in addition to the standard 3 keepers) for the cost of
next season’s 14th round pick.
I’m thinking about who I’m going to take as it can really pay
dividends. Though I’ve never kept anyone
the following year, I have made some successful choices in the past (Russell
Wilson in 2012, Torrey Smith in 2011).
Well, I can honestly say I’ve never been more excited about the
prospects of a potential redshirt as I am right now with Marcus Lattimore. Sure he’s recovering from a nasty injury that
ended his time at South Carolina,
but all reports suggest he’s recovering well so far. And I have no doubt that his talent will give
him every chance to start for the 49ers next year.
There were several other picks I liked in this round but
instead of talking about them myself, I want to give each coach the chance to
talk about their redshirt selection and how they feel about that guy a few
weeks removed from the draft.
-Derrick on Denard
Robinson: They've been raving about
him in camp. He'll never be an every down back, but if MJD doesn't return
next year, maybe he'll see significant time.
-Joe on Dennis Pitta:
Again, my head was spinning. I
didn't really want a rookie ... I wanted someone that would be out for the year
but was a proven player in the league. Truth be told, it was between him
and Maclin - and Maclin to me seems like he's hurt all the time and I've got
enough of those guys. I completely forgot about Crabtree (I had
previously eliminated his name from my draft lists), had I not forgotten about
him being injured - that's hoo I would've taken. If I can manage do hold
on to him all year, I'm alright with Pitta being my backup/startable TE next season
and his value will be higher than whatever else I could get in the 14th round
next year.
-Patrick on Markus
Wheaton: Like that guy. I was a
little mad about Keenan Allen going ahead of redshirt. But I do love them
stillers.
-Alan on A.J. Jenkins:
I really had my sights set on Aaron
Hernandez, but I didn't want to get made fun of.
-Kirk on Ryan
Williams: I
only gave Kendall one specific player
instruction, "I would prefer not to have Shonn Greene." I like
Ryan Williams as a player and as a guy who was very very humble and
appreciative in a moment where he could have been a huge fucking jackass.
He's a long shot success story and a perfect fit as a red shirt on my
team.
-Russ on Michael
Crabtree: Cheap, available, and can
be a solid WR2 or Flex next year, if healthy. Looking at the fact that Gibson
is the only 2013 redshirt, that's not bad, right?
-Mark on Justin
Hunter: This dude is fast. The
WR corps in Tennessee
needs a shot in the arm. Hoping he will be able to distance himself over
the course of the year.
-Paul on Kenbrell
Thompkins: He'd been getting some
buzz on Twitter so I figured "what the fuck?" I didn't have any
better ideas of my own.
-Chad on Kendall Hunter: This pick I like. I love the SF running game. I want to get a piece of that action any way I can. My hope is that somehow Lattimore doesn't pan out for next year or even this year if Gore goes down early enough Hunter could pay dividends this year and just burn my redshirt.
-Kendall on Jeremy
Maclin: Touched on this a bit on
the message board already, but I'll tell you, my guess is that Jeremy Maclin is
a Chief next season, repeating his career-best season of 70-1000-10. My
redshirt targets were Lattimore, Crabtree, Kenbrell Thompkins, Maclin, Kenjon
Barner, and Marvin Jones as an emergency pick. I was happy to see Maclin last
to the 11th redshirt pick, because I've always liked the guy. He's a
real-life WR1 in the NFL if he can stay healthy.
-Nathan on Tavarres
King: I was initially excited about
King. Early in camp he was talked about as the fourth WR, an enviable position
since the Broncos have three starting caliber pass catchers. Since he got cut
and added to the practice squad, it made my decision to use his roster spot
elsewhere very easy. Maybe he'll be a grower over the years. I honestly wasn't
sure who I was going to target in the RS round.
-Ben on Kenjon Barner:
He's fucking
fast! I got to see Barner play in college and it amazed me. The
entire Oregon
team amazed me with their speed, but Barner seemed to be on another plane.
I hope the same team that I witnessed run circles around Washington doesn't show up in C'ville this
weekend. Excited to finally hold on to a redshirt pick.
-Norris on LaGarrette
Blount: He was the last pick of the draft and the only guy I saw that could see some real action this year. He was a starter and lost his job. He's a fat underachiever but I'm hoping Billichick can light a fire under him and turn him into something productive.
And here are the two questions posed
to each coach, with each coach’s respective responses.
Q: Looking at your entire draft, which pick do
you like the most? Which do you like the
least?
Me: My
favorite pick is definitely Marcus Lattimore, though I do wish I was more
excited about someone who will play this season. If my team is better off next year because of
this though, I’ll take everything else as is.
Looking back, I wish I could undo the James Laurinaitis pick and take
Jared Cook there instead.
Derrick: I like the DeSean Jackson pick probably more
than most. I think Chip Kelly will keep him involved. Probably like
reshirt/Robinson pick the least. Maybe should have taken a little more of
a sure thing with the injured guys like others did.
Joe: Luck. Only because I was able to work
out a deal with Russ. Otherwise, it would have been Broyles. The
least ... probably Geno or Hill, not sure. As always, I hated all of my
drafted players by the end of the draft. I'm working on a robot that will
select as my proxy next year. I tend to overthink these things. I'm
glad I can answer these questions post-trade.
Patrick: Dez. Really happy he fell to me. Not
thrilled about Von Miller missing 6 games
Alan: I least like my Eli Manning pick. He's a
good quarterback who doesn't look good, and doesn't get any respect, and I
never know whether it's going to be a 10-point or 25-point day (I prefer some
measure of predictability). My favorites for where I got them are Davis and
Burleson (for when Megatron tears his vagina).
Kirk: It's a fair
question if I had picked the team but again I'm not going to second
guess a 4 time cups winners decisions in picking my team.
Russ: I didn't like my TE picks, but again, Joe
was basically drafting for me (not for real for real). I didn't feel great about Jordy Nelson
either. I liked Montee because the first
round got started so wildly with Le’Veon and Luck going where they did.
Mark: Favorite pick is DeAndre Hopkins. I’ve
got a hunch about this guy being legit and I hope I’m right. Least
favorite pick is probably Hillman at this point. He will probably never
start for the peens, and that's saying something.
Paul: Favorite pick: Thompkins' ADP skyrocketed in
the weeks after our draft, so that was pretty sweet. Least favorite: Jay Cutler. If I'd known I
was going to get Manuel, I probably wouldn't have taken Smokin' Jay.
Chad:
Like the most: I guess Amendola. Like the least: Pead.
Kendall:
My favorite pick (other than Cruz and
Cameron, who we've already discussed) was Tony Romo in the 2nd round. I
got him where I needed him, and I think he's a top-8 quarterback this season.
He's good enough to win a Cup with, I can tell you that. Plus, as
much as I hate the Cowboys, I like Tony Romo. He loves playing football,
and I like the way he plays.
Nathan: I still really like Bush in the first. I
think he'll easily give me RB2 production, which is plenty fine with Doug
Martin on board. But the choice has to be VJax. I flipped a coin between him
and Bush in the first, and was flabbergasted that he made it back to me. Really
pleased with my starting core of RB/WR.
Ben: Besides Barner
(who I do like a lot), I'd say Jermichael Finley. It was a later TE pick,
but it seems like Finley has to break out one of these
years. Cheesehead catch a lot of balls and receivers do
that Lambeau leap a ton of times. He's fallen a bit because
of lower than expected expectations, but the talent and scheme are there
for him to make good. On the bad
side, I'll go with Josh Freeman. I was not very educated on the
guy, but when the time came to pick a backup QB, he was
there. His preseason has scared me, but hey, he is a backup.
Brees just needs to keep doing what he does.
Norris: I'm excited about my team. Of the guys I drafted, I'm looking forward to seeing Torrey Smith play the most. I'm not as excited about DeMarco Murray. I felt forced into that pick. I was hoping someone else would fall to me. If he stays healthy he'll be great but I worry.
Q: Looking at the draft as a whole, which pick
by another team did you think was really good? Which did you think was
not so good?
Me: My three favorite picks from other teams
were Jared Cook in the 6th to Norris, DeAngelo Williams in the 6th
to Russ, and E.J. Manuel in the 10th to Paul. My three least favorite picks were J.J. Watt
in the 4th to Norris (Kuechly should have been the first IDP off the
board in my opinion), Santonio Holmes in the 10th to Patrick (he’s
hurt, he sucks, and his QB will be terrible even if Holmes plays), and A.J.
Jenkins in the redshirt round to Alan (nearly got cut by the 49ers before being
dealt to KC.)
Derrick: I haven't went back and looked at the entire
draft. Can't really say on this one
Joe: I really like Russ' pick of Crabtree in the
redshirt round. I keep kicking myself for not paying attention. Not
so good? If I had to be honest, I wasn't a huge fan of your Bell pick, even before
the injury. The trade that I offered you the morning of the draft could
have netted you Dez Bryant (or your pick of RBs) and Andrew Luck, but I'm now
really glad you didn't accept it.
Patrick: Jesus the Moose might have had the best
draft. Roo Tang's lookin ugh.
Alan: No response
provided.
Kirk: I wasn't there so I don't have the benefit
of context of when and why a player was taken. I'm sure Russ did pretty
poorly overall and Joe hated every player he took. Chad and Mark
probably robbed me of players I wanted. Kendall, Nathan, and you probably
made learned picks that people applauded. Derrick probably took a
guy who we all thought was dead and will revive him for one last zombie push
this season. And Alan probably picked a keeper, maybe even his own.
The rest did the best they could in between.
Russ: Kirk (Kendall) had a solid draft, esp. early, and I liked Kendall's Cruz pick. The Holmes pick was obviously criminal.
Mark: I like Paul’s Kenbrell Thompkins pick.
a player i reached for in the 11th of a redraft league the following
weekend. Don’t love Patrick’s Jonathan Stewart pick. Dude has 0
fantasy value this year.
Chad: I think Mark drafted well. I am still lost on some of Nathan's picks. In past years those two thoughts would have been reversed.
Kendall:
Picks I Really Liked:
-- Le'Veon Bell at #1. Game
changer. I love the chaos that pick created.
-- Andrew Luck at #3.
Joe showed that value can win out over need.
-- Danny Amendola at
2.5. Minor steal for Chad.
-- Shane Vereen at
2.6. Another great pick in a draft full of great picks for Paulie.
-- Tavon Austin at
2.14. At worst, he'll be fun to watch until he gets hurt. At best,
he'll be everything Percy Harvin was supposed to be.
-- Nuke Hopkins at 5.8.
Smart pick for Mark.
-- Mark Ingram at
5.12. Gotta love the high-pedigree post-hype sleepers in the explosive
offenses.
-- Jared Cook at 6.1.
I think we're all jealous of that one. Great pick for Norris.
-- Reuben Randle at
6.13. Great pick for Doc.
-- Bradford / Dalton at the 6th/7th
turn. I still think Rookie is an asshole for taking the Red Rifle when he
knew I had the jersey ready to bust out when I drafted him, but it was still a
good couple of picks for a QB-needy team.
-- Alshon Jeffery at
8.14. Good pick.
-- Julian Edelman at
10.2. He has long hair.
-- E.J. Manuel at
10.6. Easily my favorite pick of the draft. I wish I had made the
pick.
-- Stephen Gostkowski
at 12.4. I thought it was slick.
-- Vontaze Burfict at
12.6. I don't want to pimp ALL of Paulie's picks, but Burfict is a
freaking man.
-- Chris Givens in the
14th round. Another great cultivated redshirt by Chad.
-- I also really loved
the redshirt picks of Rookie, Patrick, Russ, Paul, myself, and Ben.
Picks I Thought
Were Bad:
-- Gio Bernard at #9.
I might have eschewed Romo had Gio still been on the board for me in the
2nd round (which honestly is what I expected). Damn you, Paul!
-- Torrey Smith at #15
overall. I thought this was a bit of a reach.
-- Eli Manning at
2.10. At that point, Alan should have just waited for the QB.
-- T.Y. Hilton at
2.11. Reeeeeeeeeach.
-- J.J. Watt at 4.1.
I think this shows a bit of overvaluing last year's production in our
new-look IDP landscape.
-- Aaron Dobson at
5.11. Kenbrell Thompkins erupted the weekend of the draft, and Dobson
lost his projected spot in the New England
pecking order. I still think Dob's the best deep receiver the Pats have
now, so I'll hold on to him to find out.
-- Santonio Holmes at
10.11. Good for comedic value, bad for fantasy football.
-- A.J. Jenkins in the
redshirt round.
-- LeGarrette Blount.
Wasted pick.
Nathan: Ben's pick of Christine Michael followed
shortly by Kendall getting Ben Tate. Those
dudes handcuffed up at the exact right time. Got their dudes and didn't
overpay. Very well done. Also liked Derrick taking Rueben Randle, Patrick's
Justin Blackmon pick, and Alan taking Ben Roethlisberger. I think all three
will outperform their draft position.
Didn't care for Russ' pick of Montee Ball. I mean, I get it, but the
situation is so muddled (and has been all summer) that you can't go that way with
a first round pick. I'm sure he'll be a long-term hold for Russ, but you'd hope
to get a lot more out of a first rounder, even in year one. I didn't really
care for Joe's double-up early strategy either, although it’s interesting if
nothing else. Norris took J.J.
Watt WAY too early. His value got eaten up by the
rule change.
Ben: Both of these are
first-rounders - Luck (good) and Bell
(not so good). I know Joe didn't need a QB, but I see Luck as a great
keeper. Indy has a history of building a team around a player like Luck,
who consequently puts up monstrous numbers. This was a ballsy move, but
one that I think will prove smart. Don't get me wrong, I like Bell. It just seems
like you could have traded down a few picks, still gotten your guy AND quite
a bit of sweetener. He is also unproven and I have little faith in the
Steelers this year. I expected Bell
to slide to mid-first round. Good upside and passes the eyeball test,
with plenty of risk. But maybe I am still jaded from my McFadden experience.
Eat shit fantasy Run DMC.
Norris: Chris Ivory was the worst pick of the draft. I think Giovani Bernard was a good pick. He is going to be better than Bell, Ball and Lacy and should have gone before them. I was hoping he would fall to me.
Norris: Chris Ivory was the worst pick of the draft. I think Giovani Bernard was a good pick. He is going to be better than Bell, Ball and Lacy and should have gone before them. I was hoping he would fall to me.
That’s a solid look at the 2013 CKL draft, but before I
close, I want to list a few players I really thought should have been drafted
but weren’t:
·
Brandon
Weeden – Sure, he wasn’t particularly great last year as a rookie and is
already pretty old for a second-year pro, but I’m a little surprised no one
took a shot with him as a redshirt. He
does have some weapons and some offensive-minded coaches there now with
Chudzinski and Turner).
·
Quinton
Patton – He’s already been scooped up from the waiver wire, and perhaps
this is who Nathan would have selected as a redshirt over Tavarres King who he
dropped to nab Patton. It looks like the
49ers like what they’ve seen and he may end up starting opposite Anquan Boldin.
·
Bilal
Powell – Another guy that has been picked up since the draft (nicely done
Norris), I was immediately surprised post-draft that Powell was still
around. Ivory may have been brought in
to take the job, but his injury history suggests he’ll miss significant time. And now it looks like Powell is even slated
to start week one.
And that’ll do it, folks. Feel free to add your own draft commentary if you feel so inclined. Thanks for reading.
Fantastic stuff, Rookie. A real pleasure to read.
ReplyDeleteGreat stuff, everyone! Really, a fantastic read.
ReplyDeleteRookie -- thanks a ton for putting it together!
Thoroughly enjoyed reading everyones comments.
ReplyDeleteAwesome, Rook! Great read.
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